I can tell this is very bothersome to", "Thanks for the info, but it's definitely not a regular "bloating" or digestion problem. A coordinator will follow up to see if Mayo Clinic is right for you. All Rights Reserved. Connect with thousands of patients and caregivers for support and answers. Lol I already use compression camisole and do the lymphatic drainage, but the belly is annoying. The swelling is in the left breast and side, naturally, but also in the groin area, upper and lower abdomen, and across my back by my shoulder blades. One concern you may have is when you can go about daily activities, like household chores and running errands. My belly swells and goes down. Doctors typically provide answers within 24 hours. Nor, do I hold a doctors degree to suggest what someone should do medically. This feels", "@kk57 See if you can get a referral to a physical therapist who addresses lymphatic massage.". I have not had reconstruction yet and it has been a year. A coordinator will follow up to see if Mayo Clinic is right for you. Its also possible that you may be offered physical therapy during your recovery period. I look like a freak. I am glad to hear about the MLD and will ask my oncologist to refer me. Its like doctors sometimes you have to search for one who is a good fit for your personality) because I was going to be flying on a vacation and I knew sometimes flying can be a trigger. Performing specific exercises after a mastectomy or breast reconstruction can help keep the range of motion in your shoulder and arm, relieve stiffness and pain, and reduce swelling. When you can start driving again typically depends on how you feel during recovery. There is a brief period where new members can't post links. They suggest using an abdominal binder and more importantly going to a physical therapist trained in lymphatic massage. Dr. William explains how it happens and the difference between swelling and seroma with an actual patient case. Pain immediately after your mastectomy will make you feel like you were crushed by a ton of bricks. I had a mastectomy and few lymph nodes removal nearly 7 weeks ago and have exactly the same symptoms you have described. However, it is important to remember that it is generally not harmful. Breast reconstruction with flap surgery is the most complex breast reconstructive option. Its not just discomfort- as we all know how uncomfortable the tightness can be! Thank you Jolamine, very helpful, at least I know what to look out for. Thanks again. When you do this, your care team and loved ones can help provide the support you need during your recovery. However, the surgeon got a little ambitious and created a lot of damage on my left side to remove the node. She did Manual Lymphatic Drainage (MLD). Also given the line that "it just looks bigger because you have no breasts". Immediately after your mastectomy, youll be moved into the recovery room at the hospital. I had mastectomy and TRAM flat reconstruction on April 6, 2020. Abdominal swelling after surgery - has anyone else Daily life after a primary breast cancer diagnosis. I bought the 9" abdominal binder from the medical store called Aids for Recovery. So grateful I found this group! It can spread to the abdomen due to the lower breast pocket and gravity. They were wrong (and @trixie1313 ) I too have Kaiser and I wish my care had been as complete as yours.sigh. But, from a surgeon's point of view, your feeling about your belly isn't important. Then revision surgery on August 3rd. In addition to general pain or discomfort, its possible to feel: Chronic pain after a mastectomy may be more common in people who: There are many potential treatments for chronic pain after mastectomy. I haven't been horrendously uncomfortable most of the time. So, yes, I have lymphedema and the massage moved a lot of fluid out. Also, try walking to help. Im currently three years post-mastectomy and reconstruction surgery. It often happens in the arms or legs, but can also happen in the face, neck, trunk, abdomen (belly), or genitals. This includes scrubbing, pulling, or pushing. I was told it was a muscle bulge until I had a CT scan that showed it was a seroma by then it was well established and couldn't be drained so I needed a second operation to remove it. (2020). When you talk about massage is it literally gentle massage with your fingers. I am also really having a hard time losing 15 pounds which I need to do. A belly binder may just bind the area and not let the lymphs move along. Thanks people, and I hope you're all doing ok. 2022 Breast Cancer Now. If anyone has a rave review of someone who does MLD (manual lymphatic drainage) in Minneapolis, please share. today I am 10 weeks out from my DIEP surgery. I bought them from Dick's Sporting Goods Store. The hospital and my surgeon said the swelling was not swelling, they said my stomach appeared to me to be swollen because I did not have breasts. I know part of it is my posture and I am seeing a PT to pull my shoulders back and strengthen my core. @delight I think of you often, I apologize that I kind of lose track of conversations. For others, it may be longer. which swelled occasionally but disapated in a day or 2. now i have had pouch swelling fo? Your surgeon may be have a point that your stomach hasn't changed but it is more visible now because the breasts have been removed. Good luck. 1. I'm not tiny but I've never had such a big upper tummy! Thanks for providing that information. Those are your signs to call your doctor for further instructions. Although I have been told the common reply from my surgeon and family Dr. that I just didn't see it before because my breasts were there, that is total B.S. It's most often felt in the areas of the chest wall, armpit, or arm. Connect with thousands of patients and caregivers for support, practical information, and answers. however,had a DIEP and ended up with seroma in the abdomen,which capsulated,and removed surgically.Consequently I ended up with scar tissue and a protruding tummy. "I had surgery Feb. 27, 2019 and had abdominal swelling. Yes, it could be a possible seroma or hematoma. The hospital and my surgeon said", "Thanks, @amandajro, but agree with @almostoutofthewoods this isnt gastrointestinal bloating which this article addresses. Connection & Conversation: Open for the holidays. I had a CT scan yesterday. I had a modified radical mastectomy, chemo and radiation in 1996-1997. I think you must consult a doctor on this as they can suggest you something after propec checkups and test reports. Had part of colon removed in April & did radiospheres as well. But if those emotions last longer than you would desire, seek some help from a professional. That is great informationI'm going to check into belly binder. This is typically 3 days or less. Your lymph nodes help filter out harmful substances. I had surgery Feb. 27, 2019 and had abdominal swelling. For example, you might not be able to lift your arms above your head for a period of time during your recovery. To learn more, please visit our. You can learn more about how we ensure our content is accurate and current by reading our. Your surgeon will schedule a follow-up appointment about 7 to 10 days after your mastectomy. Good luck to you! These include redness, pain, heat, increased swelling, or fever. So, yes, I have lymphedema and the massage moved a lot of fluid out. Hopefully others will see this and be helped as well. Thank you Carr for the valuable information. If you feel tightness across your incision or chest, start with smaller circles. It's most common after operations that remove tissue in the upper outside portion of the breast or the underarm area. This is great info. The nurses/techs give you bs when you ask for proper treatment.you cant get lymphedema if you only have 1 node removedyou wont get if after 10 yearsyou wont get it if they take blood from your handthey cant take blood pressure in your legit goes on and on. . I've just had a CT scan. Hi Delight, welcome. Its best to avoid strenuous exercises until you get the OK from your surgeon. @kk57 has shared something she is doing that seems to be helping. Since I cannot blame this on lack of exercise, constipation, cancer spread, etc., I guess I will be patient and wait for the medication to work itself out of my system to see if things improve! My care team says they have never seen this but obviously others have had it. Instead have been doing core exercises and strength training from the Physical Therapy Dept at our facility. Skin-Sparing Mastectomy: Reconstruction, Recovery, and More. What Causes Stomach Bloating After Breast Augmentation Surgery? I was stage 1 in my left breast, but had the double as a preventative measure, since I never wanted to go through this again. Also given the line that it just looks bigger because you have no breasts. Its important to stick to your recovery plan. Is it all connected? Its not uncommon to take several weeks off from work while recovering from surgery both physically and emotionally. Her comment was "Mom maybe you just didn't notice how big your belly was when your boobs were hanging down over it." I've lost nearly a stone since the op, and have been going to the gym three times a week. Owned and operated by CharityUSA.com, LLC. Kaiser also offers their patients an "after breast surgery" training class by the physical therapy department whereupon one does a series of stretching, core, weight training (stretch bands and free weights), and then finishing with stretching exercises. @chamisa See my post below. 1998-2023 Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Resreach. It may also be difficult to sleep flat for a while. My seroma appeared within 6 weeks of the original operation. Answer: 1-2 weeks. Please support The Breast Cancer Site by adding us to your ad blockers whitelist ads help us to support those fighting Breast Cancer. All Rights Reserved. I already use compression camisole and do the lymphatic drainage, but the belly is annoying. I now have a very large protruding stomach that seems to get progressively worse as time goes on. I was very concerned about lymphedema because I was trying to resolve my risks. In some cases, the skin and tissue need to be augmented with a breast implant to achieve the desired breast size. Swelling After Surgery Is it Normal? The hospital and my surgeon said", "I have mild lymphedema in one arm after a bilateral mastectomy where seventeen lymph nodes were", "@chamisa See my post below. Goodbye surgeon. Youll generally need to avoid doing household chores and lifting heavy objects for a set period of time. I had bilateral mastectomy last week, November 3, 2021. I just googled abdominal lymphedema after breast cancer and yes, I'm sure that is", "I'm here because of the bloated stomach I noticed just today. I have mild lymphedema in one arm after a bilateral mastectomy where seventeen lymph nodes were removed. Its likely that youll start out with gentle, low impact exercise and slowly increase in intensity. Try to make the circle as big as you can and move both shoulders at the same time. Your recovery time can depend on a variety of factors, like the type of mastectomy that you had and your overall health. Depends: It depends how long after gastrectomy.If the swelling happens a few days later, it can be due to infection or bleeding. YES, we discussed loss of feeling and sensation in my breasts and armpits. I have not had reconstruction yet and it has been a year. They just say that because muscle has been removed from my abdomen, the abdominal wall is very thin, so there is not much support. Connect with thousands of patients and caregivers for support, practical information, and answers. There was nothing wrong with my tummy before this op!! Your nurse or doctor can drain the fluid with a needle and syringe if the seroma is painful. I couldn't believe the bloat I had. Also, some elastic type shorts that come up to belly button and that have a wide elastic band for waist. Sigh. It can cause: swelling pain an increased risk of infection The fluid normally goes away on its own within a few weeks. I am 5 days post mastectomy and level 2 axillary node clearance. I had surgery Feb. 27, 2019 and had abdominal swelling. Chronic pain after breast surgery: A prospective, observational study. Another health carrier, Sutter, also offers classes and I found their lymphedema class was even more educational. I had a double mastectomy10 years ago. My health carrier is Kaiser Permanente and prior to any surgeries, they have patients attend classes guided by physical therapists. I felt lucky about their cancer assessment, but I couldn't get the information or education for lymphedema I requested. It's not", "I had surgery Feb. 27, 2019 and had abdominal swelling. My left ankle has been swelling in hot weather but is not swollen this morning. You should be off narcotic pain medication before driving again. I really hope you find it! 1998-2023 Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Resreach. It's called MLD, or manual lymphatic drainage. I did not know about this. You May ask why if it is common why it wasnt immediately diagnosed. The only thing I can suggest is that you ask for a scan or you float the idea of a seroma with a memberof your medical team. Same response as with the other reply here I saw. Many of those women wonder what to expect post-mastectomy. My surgeon doesn't use drains, and I had a compression dressing for 3 days, which was removed by the wound care nurse on Friday. Wishing you the very best. I was given a PT referral for lymphedema evaluation. When those nodes are removed, Lymphedema may occur. Please consult your healthcare provider with any questions or concerns you may have regarding your condition. I will probably get the results of that this Friday..I hope. Its important to talk with your surgeon about which specific activities you can do when you get home. My lymphedema is mild because I avoid triggers, practice MLD, have a Flexitouch pump system to use as needed, know what physical exercises to do to help, know how to short-stretch bandage if necessary, and finally wear a compression sleeve during exercise or exertion. "Surprised how many women are experiencing abdominal bloating. The maximal effect i Dr. Susan Rhoads and another doctor agree. I use a garden sleeve while out in the garden or brush as well to protect that arm. Might be worth discussing with hospital team and GP? You will know if you develop a seroma. It takes time to completely recover from a mastectomy. How are you feeling after your mastectomy? what could be wrong and what do i do? This can include how to care of your incision, which types of arm and shoulder exercises to do, and when you can resume your normal activities. I was always fairly lean until my DMX in 2017. Not only can this help you feel more confident, but this individual can also take over if you experience pain or discomfort while driving. Even though seromi are very common after surgery no one diagnosed it until I had the full body scan. Backward shoulder rolls. We are always here for you. I might be a big baby, but I was so upset! This can include: Its very important to carefully follow all of these instructions after you return home. My abdominal swelling was caused by reconstruction where they lifted the skin from lower belly to boob. I woke up from the first surgery with it. I do not get my blood drawn at the cancer center nor the hospital associated with it. could it be fluid? After researching this phenomenon online, I think that it must be due to the antibiotic I will finish today. Top answers from doctors based on your search: Created for people with ongoing healthcare needs but benefits everyone. There are several reasons why constipation may occur after a hysterectomy, including pain medication, a sedentary lifestyle, and a lack of fiber in the diet. When you open up your body, youre leaving yourself exposed. Hopefully the burping and passing gas is the beginning of your relief and your bowels will follow. I hope that your recuperation continues to progress. Is there anyway to tell if this is a hematoma orsomething other than normal -without going back to the doctor? I have read some cases where bilateral mastectomy gets the lymphatic system out of balance. Lots of swelling but few if any, caused by pedicle tram recon. Ive created list of my top eight post-mastectomy issues to relay over to those who ask. An abdominal CT was normal. As I'm 62, this would be impossible and I'm very definitely post menopausal. Surprised how many women are experiencing abdominal bloating. I had my mx last December and unless I wear my prosthesis I look pregnant - not a good look LOL x. Hi, thank you for responding. Great news but now2 months out I still cant wear my clothes. Ask to see a lymphedema specialist for help. and feel so much better Thank you. Does it go away? However, recovery can be longer for some individuals, potentially taking months. After time, you will gain back that range of motion assisted by exercise. I am due to have my seroma surgical removed on Tuesday 22 July. We avoid using tertiary references. 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