Hall and Beveridge note in regard to this photograph that although "the overlapped doubler is hidden behind the stowed anchor, It began in January of 1912 Displacement tonnage is the actual weight of a ship (about 52,000 tons for Titanic). And so we have established that the Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved. I was wondering if there was enough information available about the conspiracy theories to warrant expansion or even a separate article. 24. There is no record of anyone doing so. According to Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book "Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank?" It must be pointed out that only the hull of Titanic was launched with a basic superstructure. If indeed Titanic had a room called "The Olympic Room" this would only appear superstitious if one believes the ships were switched. According to Bruce Ismay's testimony before the British Wreck Commission they planned to increase Either way, the wheelhouse was not yet built at this stage, so no proof can be offered from this photograph. And how much ice would be on rigging anyway? The highly imaginative claim that the Cunard ship the Carpathia was a planned rescue ship collapses not only as it is wholey without evidence, but the numbers are inaccurate and any logic absent. As will be discussed here, those that are not inaccurate, ill-researched, dubious or simply fabricated actually have very simple and logical explanations: 1. Paddy said that the guilt of The Olympic, like the Titanic, was fitted originally with the same 14-porthole arrangement on the port side of her focsle, but 2 additional portholes were later fitted; they were there in March 1912. According to author Mark Chirnside "In April 1912, the passenger certificate of Titanic's rescue ship Carpathia (13,603 gross tons) certified her for 2,864 passengers and crew, yet she had lifeboat accommodation (boats under davits) for 702 persons. The branches creak and the shadows leap. There is no reason to doubt that passengers cancelled their voyage aboard Titanic. 46. 5 on starboard. Secondly it was a "national coal strike" so the shortage of fuel would primarily only affect ships departing or visiting England. 6. Linoleum flooring covered with carpets, 34. 36. It is clearly in a different area. I have contacted Steve Hall directly (November 2018) to clarify this and there are 4 important points to be considered: 1. Titanic was not open for the press and public inspection Damage to the Olympic due to its collision with HMS Hawke. Refer to the images below. When the Titanic sailed on her maiden voyage in April 1912, the number of passengers that she was carrying was very similar to the number that was booked onto Olympic for her maiden voyage the year before. 1. Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. Claim: The surviving crew were detained overnight and forced to sign a pledge under the 'Official Secrets Act', promising to keep secret forever, the actual events of the night of 14th / 15th April, 1912. Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! The number proves that 1. the propellers could and would not be swapped and 2. that it is Titanic. 45,324. We need to know which accounts precisely are being referred to here. (2012) which exposes the theory as being completely impossible. This means Morgan would certainly have no reason to return early on April 10 especially when he was due in Venice by April 23 (remembering that the transatlantic voyages are at least 5 days long, he would be unlikely to make it back in time). (Click image to see full photograph). Order. furniture and panelling was better that the Olympic is not accurate; furnishings and paneling aboard Titanic were, with the exception of unique rooms such as the However there is absolutely no evidence Olympic or Titanic ever had their names "riveted on". 34. While reporting from the Philippines for The Independent in 198689, he witnessed the fall of the abusive authoritarian regime of Ferdinand Marcos. The swap was purely to keep the company in business. We know that Titanic had spare propellers made (as after the disaster they were used for memorials) so it would not be unreasonable to expect Olympic was the same. James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. Stick to the path. This has been touted by some as the no.1 piece of evidence of a 'switch' - that allegedly the Olympic had a flat wheelhouse not a curved one, hence matching the flat shaped wheelhouse found on the wreck. He was predeceased by his brother Johnsey (Betty deceased, Shirley) & sister Carrie (Ray deceased). Does it reveal evidence of suspicious or unusual damage? The Olympic didn't even have a carpet, but the Titanic -- ah, you sank in it up to your knees. But for arguments sake let's take the larger of the two - the certified capacity number of both passengers and crew. Fenton developed an early interest in poetry and at 17 traveled to Austria to visit W.H. Specifically, her passenger (excluding crew) capacity was listed as 2,550: 1st-class: 100 It would have been a press scoop. previously published on the 'switch' theory -no doubt due to the release of the book "The Riddle of the Titanic" in 1996. Author Steve Hall: "The problem with that doco is it's 13 years old Of course it's Titanic.". The vessel which sailed out of Southampton on 10 April 1912 can only have been a 45,000 ton ship with the last minute addition of 1,000 tons of GRT in her B Deck public rooms and enclosed area on A Deck. Sorry, no evidence of conspiracy here, just a touched up photograph. The letters for Titanic are shown here in embossed form when in reality the outlines were etched into the hull. James J. Fenton, MD, is a pulmonologist at National Jewish Health. Paddy said that the guilt of Captain Smith on Titanic Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains further: "Ismay's sitting room was explored by James Cameron during his 2001 dives. (Click to enlarge), Titanic author Steve Hall summarises the porthole history: "At the time of the Titanic's launch there were 14 portholes in the port side plating between the focsle deck and the sheer line of the hull, but by December the same year, the ship was fitted with an additional 2 portholes, giving her a total of 16. Captain Smith and Olympic's senior officers stand in the bridge area with the curved wheelhouse clearly behind them, left of picture. About This Item. Frank Finch's letter paraphrases what his son Dennis recalled from a conversation he had in the early 1970s with an old sailor named James Fenton, also known as Paddy Fenton or "Paddy the Pig": Dennis Fench, who relayed the story told to him by "Paddy the Pig". However he conveniently does not explain 4. Above: Titanic, left and Olympic, right. Also several other passengers such as Lady Duff Gordon and Edith Rosenbaum reported ice on the deck. It makes complete sense that the local Belfast runners did not sign up for a transatlantic maiden voyage that they were not experienced or interested in doing (losing all the local jobs they were used to) when local Southampton crew were used to such "long-haul" trips. In fact, according to American researcher Jon Hollis, the bell recovered Why only them? Hence the White Star Line and their publicity agents logically used photographs of her older twin sister instead. (Click to enlarge). Some drowned, some were probably killed below decks and there is speculation that an officer may have committed suicide. Carpathia (58 miles Cunard Line, Eastbound: Left New York Tuesday, Gibraltar and Mediterranean ports 3. Lack of documentation - there is a noticeable lack of specific documentation or references to prove this claim. Or they have perhaps mistaken the front of the officer's quarters as the wheelhouse, which it is not. So the public and media were certainly not barred from touring her prior to her voyage. "Olympic Class" referred to a set of three ships: Olympic, Titanic and Britannic. In fact it had a "double-bottom" since shipbuilders at the time considered a full double hull an unnecessary expense, being satisfied with a double bottom instead. It must be noted that the Official Secrets Act of 1911 was specifically concerned with espionage that would benefit enemy military use. But most tellingly, there is not one eyewitness account of ever seeing ice on the rigging. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one Olympic, Titanic and Britannic) all had watertight bulkheads so it would One issue with this theory is that Against the forward steel wall, the faux marble fireplace with its bronze details seems in perfect condition." Firstly, the coal strike actually finished 9 days earlier on April 6, so normal traffic would have soon resumed. The ship photographed departing Southampton has 16 bow portholes. This claim shows a total ignorance, not only of Olympic and Titanic but of ships and shipbuilding in general. week and that the Captain and the company knew about it. Importantly it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. CourtesySteve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank? This is consistent with the damage previously sustained by Olympic. Even sailing at top speed through dangerous waters it arrived several hours after the sinking. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. The reality is that the Californian's cargo manifest does not exist. Claim: All that needs to be done to switch the ships is exchange those parts of the ships which bore the vessels names such as name plates, the ships bell, menus and note paper letterheads, the names on the life belts and life boats, also any plaques and brass fittings with the liners name on and any interior signing bearing the name Olympic or Titanic. Claim: The name plate of Titanic is longer on the ship as it went on its maiden voyage compared to when it was being built. This particular claim began when Robin Gardiner stated in his book that when the name on the bow of the Titanic wreck was cleared of rust (allegedly filmed by Dr. Ballard during his 1986 dive to the wreck), the raised letters 'M, P & Y' were visible. In summary Gardiner's allegations that Titanic was in fact a damaged Olympic struggling to maintain speed does not add up, especially when you consider that he alleges It is true that Titanic's sea trials were half that of Olympic's. The And, there is no evidence that I am aware of that points to the damage being more serious than was admitted Gardiners speculation notwithstanding. However his comments that the THIS IS PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE AND IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. drive the ship at full speed.. Chirnside and Halpern conclude: "There is no doubt that Titanics speed was increased steadily throughout her maiden voyage, revolutions were increased, boilers brought online, and preparations Survivors on B Deck saw lifeboats lowered from above And if these researchers and historians are supposedly "in" on the conspiracy then why would they release this image at all and risk the 'truth' being known? This is where Gardiner's theory starts to get even more bizarre. There he won the Newdigate Prize for Poetry, a contest wherein students wrote poetry on a set topic, in this case the opening of trade and diplomatic relations between Japan and the United States in 185354. Actual video footage of Titanic's name clearly visible on the wreck in 1987. Lightwood, Stoke-on-Trent - Wikipedia . Also it must be noted that Titanic's dining room was Titanic's lifeboats had "RMS Olympic" written on them Take a look at the two photographs and compare for yourself. 'The Olympic Room' The longer they were at sea, the more money it cost. First and foremost we must address the fact that 'tonnage' mentioned here does not refer to a ship's "weight". the newspaper Northern Star that was published on the 31 July 1996. Get a Britannica Premium subscription and gain access to exclusive content. not go to sea as Titanic with Olympic written on the bells. This particular picture was a fake and I have an email from the producer of the film confirming this. They were: Californian (19 miles) a Leyland Line, Westbound London to Boston The claim that Olympic was fitted with Titanics propeller has been made as a defense for the fact that the propeller on the wreck has Titanic's number on it: 401 The ship had never been at (for more information see here). and was the first national strike by coal miners in Britain, with the main goal securing a minimum wage. full speed. (Click image to enlarge). So conclusively, with no 'expert' opinion required, the Olympic's damage does not match this so called 'proof.' Interestingly, by the time of the Titanic disaster, Olympic's 14 portholes were also changed to 16 during her major refit, so in fact they were the same. Claim: Olympic's trials in 1910 took two days, including several high-speed runs, but Titanic's trials reportedly only lasted for one day, with allegedly none over half-speed. However, this was not unique to Titanic. 3. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch 6. 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